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THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION The Current podcast “How do we know if US strikes on Irans nuclear facilities were successful?”Tuesday,June 24,2025 Host:Fred Dews,Office of Communications,Brookings Guest:Mara Karlin,Visiting Fellow,Strobe Talbot Center for Security,Strategy,and Technology,Foreign Policy Brookings music DEWS:Hi,Im Fred Dews and youre listening to The Current,part of the Brookings Podcast Network,found online at Brookings dot edu slash podcasts.On this episode,a focus on the recent U.S.bombing of three nuclear sites in Iran,the continuing conflict between Israel and Iran,and what comes next.Here to discuss these issues is Mara Karlin,a visiting fellow with the Strobe Talbot Center for Security,Strategy,and Technology in Foreign Policy here at Brookings.Dr.Karlin has served in national security roles for six U.S.secretaries of defense,advising on strategic planning,defense budgeting,the future of conflict,and regional affairs in the Middle East,Europe,and Asia.As assistant secretary of defense for strategy,plans,and capabilities,she led the development and implementation of the 2022 National Defense Strategy,Nuclear Posture Review,and Missile Defense Review.A great guest t